The Scoop on Providence

topic posted Fri, July 30, 2004 - 12:05 AM by  Tristan
Hey there.

I'm moving to the North East and I keep hearing great things about Providence.

So, I want the skinny. What do you love? What do you hate? Which are the cool, affordable neighborhoods? Where should I avoid? What is the winter really like? Is there a decent public transport system? Can you fly anywhere from the local airport? (I'm a musician and I travel a lot). Are people generally friendly? So many questions ...

Any advice / opinions will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
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Tristan
Providence
  • Re: The Scoop on Providence

    Sat, May 28, 2005 - 7:53 PM
    well, i moved from out of state and i am sure
    you have heard the stories about the corruption,
    the nepotism and how everyone know everyone..
    u can't mention a name without someone trying
    to figure out if they know them or not ...it so annoying...
    i think they are starting to realize that they can not
    live in the past forever ...you would think it would
    be the opposite since all the radicals that were
    kicked out of mass. wound up here..the other radicals
    that were later kicked out of mass. and ended up
    in, say, wisconsin or calif. really started the progressive
    movement so i still can't figure out exactly what happened
    here but i am working with several econ and tech orgs
    to promote the growth of technology in the state ,
    especially since they have lost some 45k manufacturing
    and other jobs in the past decade or so...
    let me know if u want to know anything else..
    david
    • Re: The Scoop on Providence

      Fri, June 3, 2005 - 9:15 AM
      > let me know if u want to know anything else..

      Hi david -

      Nope. I've been living here quite happily on the east side since September 1 and am really enjoying my time here. Thanks for the opinions though, I see what you mean : )

      - GM
      • Liz
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        Re: The Scoop on Providence

        Tue, August 29, 2006 - 12:29 AM
        But, Tristan,
        the REAL scoop on providence is the food. Everyone I know who has ever spent time in providence agrees, best food in the USA.
        As you are new I will give you some tips
        Hudson street market... in the armory district has the best sandwiches anywhere, and they will probably keep you eating for about a week.
        Apsara has cheap eats cambodian stye-I love the beebong- and a byob policy
        and pizza, don't get me started! fellini (wickeden) , casserta (federal hill)..its's all good!
        It's not just pricy Italian, all the fod in provi is awesome, a broccoli pie from Loui's...delish!
        And that sushi place on wickeden has awesome food too!
        • Re: The Scoop on Providence

          Thu, October 26, 2006 - 12:38 PM
          Hi Liz,

          I'm not new any more. Been "living on Hope" since September 1, 2004

          I agree with all your food choices.

          T.
          • Re: The Scoop on Providence

            Fri, October 27, 2006 - 6:59 AM
            never trust a local to tell you about the food here.
            most of them wouldn't know good food if it tried to -eat them-.

            best food in the USA?
            please.
            not even close.
            even the italian food,
            which should be outstanding given the size of the local population
            can't even come close to NYC or Philly's italian.

            and new englanders do not know how to make a pizza. period.
            i've tried them all,
            all over RI, all over the whole region,
            for 15 years now.
            they're grim, pale shadows of pizza.
            the "by the slice" place on thayer
            is the closest to decent (not good, just decent) pizza i've been able to find.
            caserta's on atwells is this bizarre RI concept of "pizza"
            that somehow doesn't involve any cheese.
            i'll never understand it.

            there's some great food here, don't get me wrong,
            but i'm not even willing to say best in the northeast,
            let alone best in the whole country.


            and to a new englander,
            you'll be "new here" until you die,
            because you weren't born and raised here.
            i've been in new england almost half my life
            and i'm still not a "local".
            • Re: The Scoop on Providence

              Fri, October 27, 2006 - 10:59 AM
              "and to a new englander,
              you'll be "new here" until you die,
              because you weren't born and raised here."

              Yes, I noticed that people in Providence were somewhat... touchy... about that sort of thing.

              And for some reason that I'm not clear on, neighborhood designation seems to be critically important to a degree that I've not seen anyplace else. It was almost surreal, actually.
              • Re: The Scoop on Providence

                Sat, October 28, 2006 - 12:17 PM
                not sure what you mean about it being "important".

                important as to whether or not you're treated like a long term tourist?
                • Re: The Scoop on Providence

                  Sat, October 28, 2006 - 4:34 PM
                  No. Important as to whether or not I'm accosted on the trolley.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: The Scoop on Providence

                    Sun, October 29, 2006 - 6:05 AM
                    i'm not trying to be thick,
                    i'm just having trouble following you.

                    are you talking about the radical differences
                    in affluence and therefore "safeness" from neighborhood to neighborhood?
                    • Re: The Scoop on Providence

                      Tue, October 31, 2006 - 3:32 PM
                      "are you talking about the radical differences
                      in affluence and therefore "safeness" from neighborhood to neighborhood?"

                      No. I never really felt unsafe in any neighborhood in Providence (except for the area immediately surrounding the downtown YMCA, which is next to some kind of homeless shelter or drug rehab center or something like that -- it definitely put me on edge going to and from the bus stop).

                      Perhaps I have difficulty explaining it because I don't really understand it myself. The attitude of the importance of "neighborhood," the close-knit, exclusionary attitudes and behaviors around the concept of "neighborhood" that I perceived in Providence are totally outside my realm of experience or understanding.

                      I'm glad it doesn't exist here. Or if it does, I'm totally oblivious to it, which is fine as well.
                      • Re: The Scoop on Providence

                        Wed, November 1, 2006 - 6:36 AM
                        i guess i've never experienced anything like that
                        in the nearly 10 years i've been here
                        which is why i didn't quite get what you were talking about.

                        i know a lot of "locals" have a lot of resentment
                        for all the students who move into various areas
                        and drive up rents
                        making a lot of noise
                        clutter the streets with cars
                        an encourage businesses to come into the area
                        that normally would have no interest there,
                        and that can create a lot of hostility towards people from this or that part of town.

                        there are also some serious economic divides in providence.
                        parts of the east side are either very affluent or quite impoverished.
                        parts of the west side are either tied to an ethnic identity
                        or have become havens for artists, musicians and hipsters.
                        the lines between the two are often very thin.
                        so neighborhood identity becomes over emphasized
                        to ensure people know you're from the right part of town
                        (either for purposes of street cred or for purposes of being seen as successful).

                        but i've never seen any real open hostility about these kinds of things.
                        i'm sorry you did.
                        • Re: The Scoop on Providence

                          Wed, November 1, 2006 - 9:24 AM
                          "so neighborhood identity becomes over emphasized
                          to ensure people know you're from the right part of town"

                          Yeah, that sounds about right.

                          "but i've never seen any real open hostility about these kinds of things.
                          i'm sorry you did."

                          Yeah, me too. It's like a shadow over my whole perception of Providence and my memory of life there. It's truly a shame.
                          • Re: The Scoop on Providence

                            Thu, November 2, 2006 - 6:25 AM
                            mind if i ask which neighborhood(s) it was that created the offending attitude?
                            • Re: The Scoop on Providence

                              Thu, November 2, 2006 - 12:53 PM
                              You know, I'm not sure that I live far enough away for me to be able to answer that safely in public. And my best friend still lives there, so I plan to come back and visit from time to time. So I best not.

                              My experience there taught me to keep my mouth shut about such things. :)
            • Re: The Scoop on Providence

              Thu, January 11, 2007 - 5:38 PM
              Having been in New England for over 18 years now, I can attest to the insular quality of New Englanders, and I have to say that I am not overly impressed with the food, with the exception of a Vietnamese place in Chinatown and Regina's in the North End of Boston. I have found no pizza in Providence that I consider edible. There is a decent Thai place on Wickenden, though. The big issue that I have with eating in New England is that nothing is open late, except thankfully Spike's.
  • Re: The Scoop on Providence

    Sun, April 15, 2007 - 11:22 AM
    so I skipped everyone's reply, in hopes of not being tainted..on the otherside of things, I might be repeating already discussed issues.

    Anyway..I'm a true RI/Providence townie, though currently relocated in Boston. I was born in Providence, grew up in the heart of Fox Point and later up on College Hill. Thayer was one of my many homes through high school. I've seen every side of Providence, even spending a summer on the streets of the South Side and parts of Cranston.

    If I hadn't grown up there, I'd probably be living there now. I need time away from it all, but maybe I'll be back in years to come. BUT..Providence is an *awesome* place. The culture, the arts, the people, the diversity, the weather, the politics. There is plenty not to like or be annoyed with, but name a place you loved everything about, and wasn't clouded by deceit.


    SOOoOoOooo...To answer some of your specific questions:

    Loves: Waterfire, the culture, the city-feeling without anysense of suburbia, being able to get across the entire city in under an hour, the music, being close to everything else in the northeast, but in a quiet city.

    Hates: Nothing, though there are things I dislike.. Brown/RISD kids (but they play an important role..), needing a car (life is MUCH easier with one), oh hell..I guess I don't really have all that many.

    Affordable neighborhoods: Depends on what you're looking for in a neighborhood, and your price range. For example, College Hill is more expensive than say, Fox Point..but it might be worth it if you're looking for something a bit more pleasant and warm. On the otherhand, most of the rest of the East Side is overpriced and not worth the extra expense (in my opinion). What are you looking for in a neighboorhood? I would suggest getting a small, crappy place somewhere as a sublet for the summer, and travel the city looking for a more permanent place. Contact me directly if you would like more information..the housing market is a little funky right now.

    avoid: Why should one avoid anything in life?

    Winter: I'm a skier, so I'm probably not the best person to ask. But I'll say this: The weather in the northeast is inherently spontaneous and unpredictable; you do just as well looking outside from time to time, as you do listening to the weathermen. The issue is the jet stream and it's movements from E/W. So in short, if you aren't an individual acccepting of spontenity and change, you'll often find yourself annoyed and frustrated. Oh..and there is no concept of "seasons."

    transportation: RIPTA is pretty good, and I don't really have any complaints..but at the same time, the traffic isn't so bad that having a car is so inefficient, and the benefits do pay off. There are many times where going out to East Providence, Seakonk, Newport, or even Boston, are either easier, or desired for some reason. Also.. you're in the northeast, and going to N.H. Vt. Maine, or elsewhere makes for great weekend retreats.

    airport: TF Green isn't the biggest, and doesn't have complete coverage..but on the otherhand, Boston's Logan airport does, and is only 60 minutes away. You could even go from anywhere in Providence to Logan airport 100% on public tranportation (granted, it would take awhile)

    Other: what are you waiting for?

    :D

    hope this may have been of some help. Maybe now I'll read through what other people have said.

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